80% said yes to "Are you sad?", the other 20% didn't speak English
Imagine as a plumber you need to fix a broken pipe but your toolbox decided to arbitrarily change the name of your ratchetWrench to ratchetingWrench and changed the switch from tight/loose to in/out, but forgot to add that detail in the updated ratchet manual and before you can grab your toolbox from your truck that contains your wrench, you discover your keys to your truck no longer work, so you have to get new keys but the new keys only work in a new truck, so you have to get a new truck for $79,000
There are also those "fun" open office enviroments, where you are constantly brought out of focus and has to constantly strain yourself mentally to just get a medicrum of work done.
I’m not depressed cause I’m a programmer, I’m a programmer cause I’m depressed .
Remember guys: 'Pain is temporary'. And as we know, nothing is as permanent as a temporary solution.
The coding part was fine; it was all the corporate bullshit preventing us from coding: literal days-long meetings; incompetent leadership, management, and businesspeople; and the pointlessness of the projects we worked on.
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"You have to go to work again because you didn't die in your sleep." Brother, truer words have never been spoken.
Nailed it. It's not the money or the work that make programmers hate their life. It's their boss/manager / unrealistic expectations / infinite meetings / bad & constantly stressful work environment.
if employed programmers are depressed how depressed are unemployed programmers
I am programmer and hate my job, have to do this because it's the only thing that pays decently in my country, it was either choosing this or follow my passion and starve.
Programming is a creative activity, when the programmer makes decisions. When the corporate virus makes other people make the decisions and only need coding "as you are told", there is no creativity and no happiness either
As a programmer that quit my job to be a farmer, I'm infinitely happier now. No more dreading the next day, no more worries about whether corporate politics or "shareholder expectations" will cost me my job, and no more being forced to make bad products, because doing it right would take too long. I have a job that positively impacts the world, gives me time off to pursue personal projects, and the weather is somehow more predictable than middle management.
I quit my job last year because I had been assigned to a long term project highly in technical debt and it was depressing to deal with the same morons every day. At my new job, I got assigned to a long term project which is highly in debt, with a bunch of morons, but I'm getting paid twice as much as before. Modern problems require modern solutions.
Money is unlikely to equal happiness, but creating value and being passionate about your work helps. The challenges with technical debt and work culture are particularly relatable.
For me, the main issue is the "Hustle or Die" culture. Recently, a director put me in charge of doing an MVP for a client. We earned the client. I was expecting to have the company moving to be ready for the full project. Nope. No planning, just pushing forward... Now, they are ramping up five different projects without enough people after signing the contracts. No setup period, pure hustle, and now we are basically delivering at a very slow pace because of lack of resources. What will definitely happen is that deliverables will fail deadlines, while we will be screamed to deliver anything at a breaking-neck pace. This cycle over and over again sucks the life of any individual.
Record financial results - little to no pay rise. Bad financial results - little to no pay rise and layoffs. And "anonymous" satisfaction surveys, ofc.
Companies: "Why do people leave so quickly? We're losing all our accumulated knowledge!" Also companies: "A raise? Pffff, best I can do is 1.3%"
I started programming when I was a kid, 27 years ago. I got a CS degree and was a professional software engineer for 11 years. I had jobs that paid well, jobs that didn't. I tried a big company, and I tried startups, and I tried being a founder myself. I hated it 90% of the time and really wish I could go back and pick another career. And when I say I hated it, I mean I hated it so much it ruined my entire life. It's not for everyone.
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