@JohnBedwell-gf3eo

This is not a new problem. In imperial times, corrupt Chinese generals often claimed for more soldiers than they actually had and pocketed the pay of these 'phantom soldiers'. The problem came when the Chinese actually had to fight and the government discovered their army was smaller than expected.

@alibizzle2010

The most recent Nigerian census did reveal that they had 100M more people than they predicted so maybe all the Chinese went to Lagos ;)

@bj6515

The Chinese become aware of you when you draw your first Winnie-the-Pooh picture.

@philipwilkie3239

A good friend of ours just came back from a 3 week tour of China and unprompted mentioned how surprised she was at how empty the streets were.

@Lonsdaleitehard

Japan and Russian auditor teams independently of each other, using data points that China doesn't hide and they believed can accurately predict roughly a country's actual population size, both put China's actual population at around 800 to 900 million.

@atpsynthase7990

Personally, I think losing that many people is just plain careless.

@jeffscottkennedy

Not to mention that during the early COVID pandemic, they reported low death tolls, but satellite imagery, crematorium activity, and eyewitnesses point to massive mortality—especially in Wuhan and again in 2022–2023 after Zero-COVID abruptly ended. 
Some cities show housing vacancy rates over 30%, raising doubts about how many people actually live there. During peak COVID months, mobile phone subscriptions dropped by tens of millions—possibly tied to unreported deaths. Electricity use and travel patterns during major holidays also point in that direction. As Peter has noted, births have plummeted to under 10 million a year, marriage rates have collapsed, and millions of young people are now choosing not to have children at all.
Pharmaceutical use among retirees has dropped off a cliff. But you would think that in a truly aging population, demand for prescription medication, elder care facilities, home health care, and medical devices like walkers or hearing aids should be climbing steadily. But they’re not.
After the spike in funeral service (2022-2023), the need for it has flatlined, possibly due to the absence of surviving elderly to drive future demand.
In some cities, there’s an unusually high number of unclaimed or uninhabited homes registered to older individuals—implying they may have passed away without next-of-kin transfers recorded.

@JonGlez978

Here I am in Thailand and the other country with 1.4B people (India) their tourist are everywhere! Thousands of them... meanwhile China with supposably 1.4B (1.3B if you believe Peter) Where are they? I know their economy is not well... but they should be like India... tons of them everywhere... but you don't see them. I think those estimate under 1B are actually more accurate than anything that will ever be reported.

@patrickwentz8413

One person is a tragedy. 100 million people is a statistic.  Stalin

@clive3490

Don't forget the 21 million cell phone subscriptions that were'nt renewed following covid. The chinese absolutely MUST have a cell phone nowadays.

@TheRoyalFlush

The popular travel Vlogger BaldnBankrupt recently visited China, and he made a point to express how empty it was. He explained how China supposedly has more people than countries like India, which are bustling with people, yet the Chinese  streets were mostly empty. Very weird.

@captainhadd0ck

Every day I give thanks to the universe that I was not born in China.

@hydroac9387

The statement "...a government can function if it blinds itself..." is chilling.

@rickchase6990

They' in Vancouver

@JohnBlatz-xb3vx

I get your point about not collecting data.  However, some of us feel that we have almost no privacy anymore and that big business and government collects too much data.

@dangerwillrobinson366

And who would want to bring children into this political system of no freedom and massive government intrusion.

@kateryan9988

Let's all further help the Chinese out by reducing any Made-in-China purchases whenever humanly possible.

@mrgoober6320

China's real problem is that it's a low trust society.  The specific reason that it's a problem is that scientific progress and smooth bureaucratic function depends on individual honesty and accountability.

@ianatkin7541

Bald & Bankrupt, on a recent trip to China, kept saying "Where are all the people?" in his recent video. City after city, you could see how empty things were.

@MrBlueSkies

I was not aware of the points at which Chinese people are calculated by the government. It does make perfect sence however, they only want to know when a child starts to become educated/indoctrineated and when that educated is complete they want to know when you are ripe for taxation.