@garkeinbock7103

It's interesting how someone can get so emotional about a language. But I think it's really scary how normalized it is to casually put out conspiracy theories without anything to back this up. 

It would be totaly fine to say that you think rust should not be integrated into the linux kernel and rust programmers are not smart enough to get that.
But it's absolutely not okay to theorize that they plan an evil plot to destroy linux or to gain total control to achive some kind of political goal without presenting any kind of evidence. 

Fun fact: Rust is called after the rust fungus. A parasite.

@DotNetDemon83

I just love it when people make a programming language their personal identity said no one ever

@BrandonDyer64

13:45 Any Rust dev that’s told you it’s easier than C is crazy. C is easy. C is the default, and it’s a great starting place for new programmers and in college. Rust, on the other hand, was one of the most challenging languages I’ve ever learned. Too many weeks of bashing my head against the wall until just the borrow checker finally clicked.

@vampire_kiril

why would you use a programming language or engine by some insane people that can BAN you from technical service and help?

@axeman2638

This is the conclusion I have come to also.

@tikabass

The most tedious (aka difficult) part of kernel programming is not the language, by far.  And it's not for everyone, even those with a college degree.

@SaidMetiche-qy9hb

As a C programmer for 9 years now, I agree with you, don't like these people who talk too much

@MarcoAurelio-sv2tk

Even the government recommended it. This should be already a huge red flag.

@negirno

This is maybe a dumb whataboutism in my part, but...
Drew Devault is woke as frick and he at least in the past was against Rust.

@lottery248

no wonder why it's called "rust".

@Dionysus-Reality

You've hit the nail on the head it is the gramscian ideal of "March Through The Institutions". If the language is becomes very difficult it will be filled with people who are ideologically motivated towards very particularly ideals as opposed to being focused on open source software.

@LethalBubbles

rust is <unsafe>CENSORSHIP</unsafe>

@Tall_Order

This also goes into the communist idea that everything old must go. Just because it's old. Doesn't matter if it's something we rely on, that has done a great job or not. It's old, so it must be replaced by OUR version.

@sa3270

Such a shame when things get corrupted by woke ideologies.

@josemanuelpena2905

This is only partially true but because Rust is a recently built community and is plagued with woke lunatics, but on the other hand is an excellent driven project from a technical and developer experience perspective, so the only solution is bring real diversity to the rust community, and by real I mean, ideological diverse people that can stand and that try to left the politics aside.

@BrandonDyer64

Have you tried Rust? I used to hate it, but once I learned how to use it properly I started to love it.

I think what you’re seeing are the idealists who think we can rewrite everything in their new favorite language. The activist type. What you’re not seeing are us Rust devs who just want to write it with our own projects. The silent majority who just appreciates good programming.

@ozkifovxvypyvp3574

While I can agree that Rust community is heavily influenced by wokies, much of the early community and development occurred in the Bay Area after all; a lot of the evangelism for it is also on the technical ideals it pursued as a project. Once people like things on the internet, they tend to become stupid with it. Linux evangelists bashing Microsoft is alternative trope I would throw out, not without merit but can be taken too far.
Ultimately, if there's a culture you want to preserve, then it's up to individuals (or group) to recognize that and fight against / prevent invasion/intrusion.

@swedishpsychopath8795

This happened at work when they allowed Kotlin to be used alongside Java. Kotlin is an alternate Java syntax since it is based on running in a JVM.  Now EVERY programmer must master both Java and the Kotlin dialect and everybody is worse off. But the Kotlin people are smiling from ear-to-ear from some reason.

@philosophyze

Great points! I started worrying about your objections as I've started learning Rust and their community governance. That whole kerfufle over the Rust brand was a warning siren. 

I have a very based developer friend who is doing some paradigm shifting software architecture with Rust but neither of us are involved with the community and you provide good reasons to stay that way.

I hadn't thought of the community culture part of integrating Rust into the Linux kernal but you're obviously right. Anything with a "Code of Conduct" on something "free" is a problem. But my question is more whether this Hegelian/Marxist bent is inherent in all "Open Source" software?

@k98killer

Those who would give up essential liberty for a bit of memory safety deserve neither safety nor liberty.