I describe it as this; misogyny from men makes me angry, but misogyny from women just hurts.
Many cases are really disgusting ngl. Men are scary af. There was this incident that happened when I was 13, my mom and brother went to go to his ceremony or smtg, leaving me and my baby sister alone, my sister went to play out with the other kids while I was alone at home, my cousin brother who was 17 at that time i think, invited himself oved and stirred up a conversation, I never thought much of it until he came closer, whispering to my ear, touching my waist, commenting abt my body. I obv knew that what he was doing was wrong so I called him out, he said that he only thinks of me as a younger sister an blah blah blah. After my mother came I told her everything that happened, made a big problem out of it, my father's side cherishes my cousin brother so yeah obv they tried to frame me, and i had enough of their BS and called them out, i told my dad I wanted to change places and never see their faces again, he agreed. Later my grandmother spread rumours about me being a attention seeker, and all those mean stuff. They hated me to the core, would send threats to me and my family saying I'll regret my decisions and the truth will prevail. My other cousins would ask me why I did that? Like is it worth the hate your receiving? And I laughed saying I never ever regretted a single thing I did. I'm the most hated member in my father's family. But I dgaf. My mother told me that if a man does a crime towards a girl, he gets to be free but the girl continues to suffer and her name and dignity gets tarnished while the man walks away unharmed. I never understood why. Time passed, I got good grades, I got selected to many competitions, have alot of certificates and medals, my face was all over our small town, all thanks to God, my father's side is suffering, They're own words cams back to bite them.
that is so 100% accurate. my father is abusive and he had anger issue. as the only daughter of the family, i've always been targeted by my father to released his problem but the worst part is my mom saw and allowed all the abusive. she choose to stayed loyal to my father as she so desperate for men's affection. it traumatised me to the core. i had serious commitment issue and marriage for me is like a life sentence.
I have a very beautiful Japanese friend like I mean she's STUNNING and she told me in high school she would get bullied by girls in her class just because the popular guys would talk to her even though she was not trying to date them. I knew this stuff happened in anime and kdramas but I was shocked that it actually plays out like that in real life. I always loved east Asia but I can't imagine how hard it is to be a woman in those societies.
11:05 Even if the female second lead isn’t as bad as the male second lead, they still somehow make her so unbearable that the audience ends up hating her with all their heart. Sometimes, she’s actually just a victim of the male lead she still comes across as the most hateful character in the entire drama.
And these countries wonder why younger women don't want to have kids
I think the worst kind of misogyny is the one that comes from women themselves. For example, in Iran, if a man cheats, people often insult the woman he was with before blaming him. They call her a "homewrecker," not him. I once even saw a woman telling another woman who was a victim of an acid attack that she deserved it because she had ruined another woman’s marriage. Many women say things like “men have the right to cheat; they’re men, they can’t help it.” A lot of mothers even force their daughters-in-law to take virginity tests. And I don’t think this kind of thing only happens in my country. I find it absolutely disgusting and horrifying that so many women are misogynistic themselves and support patriarchy.
so true, living in Asia can be frustrating for these very reasons, sexism and misogyny is almost second nature to most people and very few do the self-work needed to overcome it. it’s very hard being a progressive in this environment…
when my aunts and grandmothers found that my dad had a secret mistress my mother was the one who got scolded and blamed.... everyone told derogatory words to my mom... never once did any one say anything bad to my dad. he even had secret 3 children through her. and the one who got blamed was my mom by her own mom and sisters and ofcourse by everyone
It reminds me of a quote i heard, roughly translated to english as "i empathize with my mother as a woman, but she was an awful mother"
The mothers being jealous of their daughters is so true. My mom once told me that its as if she is living with her husband's second wife. Ngl, it hurt a lot, i was just 11
When I was little, I was shocked at people telling us girls on our face how we were not as intelligent as boys and that we would fall behind on math and science sooner or later, even when we were actually good at those subjects and didn’t show signs of difficulty. The family friends, the management at school (our math teacher was a woman lol), they all did that quite blatantly tbh. It was seen as “common sense” and “factual”, so nobody would even bash an eye. My own parents have never been like that, so I never thought I was any bit less intelligent than boys. How the society view us strike me as being deeply misogynistic from very early on. I began to hate men and the society for this unfairness at around teenage and this hatred took almost two entire decades to slowly evaporate Long story short, I got the hell out of that place and I’ve only healed and stopped resenting men after spending years in a relatively more egalitarian society. If men here are misogynistic, at least they can’t do it in public. Idc that much if they keep that shit in private because I’m not planning to get involved anyway. I still don’t trust men and I think I’ll stay happily single for the rest of my life It’s very hard for women under patriarchy to not become bitter, resentful and full of hate IMO. They either end up hating women or they hate men. There is not an no-hate option here. You just can’t be when you’re treated like that
I love seeing my husband melt when our daughter looks at him. I couldn't imagine seeing their relationship as a threat.
i highly recommend to read "grotesque" by Natsuo Kiriko. It's a mind-blowing book that explores themes such as misogyny and the brutal class system in Japan
Its also crazy how women are supposed to accept their husband’s/partners cheating and are expected to forgive them
misogyny in westernized societies leads to demographic pit. it's not an exaggeration, that's a straight correlation. you can't have women as a work force equal to men and treat them like second class people at the same time without negative consequences for the nation. that's why first world countries must prioritize eradicating misogyny from the public mind. this IS a matter of ethnic survival and economic stability.
Ive always felt weird that people always focus on the mistress and the husband mostly gets off scot free, compared to the mistress. Your partner is the one in a relationship with you and is supposed to be commited, but when he breaks that rule you punish the 3rd party? Huhh??
I learned something new in the part where you explain how langage shapes societal norms. It enlightened me on how mysogyny can be inserted in our daily lives and societal practices. In french, the major part of our words are divised in two genders : feminine and masculine. Some words, like jealousy or hysteria, are associated with a feminine denomination ! internalized misogyny seems to be a problem everywhere in this world...
I will say as an American woman, never in my life have I experienced such strong patriarchy(sexism, misogyny) until moving , living and working in East Asia to be specific.
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