@gchudasamadarshit9111
Oldboy(2003) is one of the greatest movie ever made
@Ironheart73
The remake actually thought that the point of the original was "Oh look, they made him have sex with his own daughter! Oh man! Thats really disgusting. Incest is really disgusting!". The original oldboy was not about incest. It was about revenge. About how two men fell to their inevitable tragedies because of their obsession with revenge. Oh Dae Su gave up finding his own daughter to focus more on seeking his revenge. Things would have turned out differently if he focused more perhaps on his daughter. He would not have fallen off on this trap. For Lee Woo Jin, he took his life because after having his revenge, nothing really was solved. Nothing of what he lost was brought back. Now that he had his revenge, he has nothing else to live for.
@dathunderman4
Joe Doucett was such a bad name choice imo, it seemed like they just tried to pick an American name that vaguely sounds like “Oh Dae Su.” In the original, the name Oh Dae Su is supposed to be a parallel to Odysseus, as the entire film is a Greek tragedy and is in many ways a modern retelling of The Odyssey. You don’t get any of that with the name “Joe Doucette.”
@q.i.m.s9999
I just watched Oldboy last night and this movie is now one of my biggest recommendations. Everything I love ab movies is delivered here in one of the best ways. It honestly has the best editing of any movie I’ve ever seen. This movie came out in 03' and everything ab it holds up beautifully. I honestly can't wait until it gets its remaster to come out on streaming platforms. I'm so glad that they decided to do this bc it's now gonna have a brand new audience. It's a one of a kind film to say the very least.
@joesmith201212
So when Thanos said to Scarlett Witch i dont even know you that was a complete lie
@joynergrim4003
The main question is “Where the f is Oldboy 2023?” now
@damianstarks3338
The original Oldboy is a classic and I like it
@christianokami2220
As somebody who had great hope in Spike being the one guy who could get the adaptation right, and as a huge Park Chan Wook fan, I was greatly disappointed. A huge stain on Spike Lee’s otherwise stellar discography.
@FireIceProductions-i4b
What makes this situation even weirder, is that before Spike Lee came along, Hollywood was already trying to make an American Remake. However this version was going to be directed by Steven Spielberg and star Will Smith in the lead (yes really). And controversial take....i think i wouldve preferred if we got Spielberg's version instead. Dont get me wrong, i dont think his version wouldve been any better, and i still very much wouldve preferred the 2003 film. But i think Spielberg couldve pulled it better then Spike Lee did. As i feel Spielberg's directing fits better with what the original Oldboy was going for, and appearently from what i could gather, Spielberg wasnt even going to include the incest twist at all, instead he wanted to make a more direct adaptation of the Manga (which, spoiler alert: Does NOT have the incest twist as well) and be more of a straight revenge story more then anything else. Though i assuming like in the Manga and movie, there still woild be consequences for the protagonist following the path of revenge (whatever those consequences would be, whether its the same the Mangas consequences or not). Which i think wouldve made Spielberg's version easier to accept, as the fact that Spielberg wanted a striaght forward revenge story tells me he udnerstands the original enough to know it should be a Revenge story first and foremost, and not whatever Shock Value for the sake of it Spike Lee tried playing up. Plus, a more Manga accurate adaptation wouldve been a nice way to differentiate from the original, and Spielberg has made more mature stories before with films like Jaws, Minority Report, Munich, Saving Private Ryan, and Schindler's List (sorry if i butchered that btw). Not too mention, not including the Incest twist wouldve shown that Spielberg wasnt trying to one up the original in anyway, and just wanted to do his own thing. Like i said, i dont think it wouldve been better, and i think we all still wouldve preferred the original, but at least it wouldve been something. Instead, we got the Spike Lee Joint, which i felt was trying WAY too hard to one up the original 2003 film for its own good.
@lizdevilz7271
One thing that failed so hard about remake was that director somehow portrayed iconic scene like that corridor fight scene to be in badass way while it's not how this scene supposed to feel like. This scene supposed to feel realistic, fear, hestitation, tiring feeling and feeling of struggling against hordes of people. You are not supposed to look like badass, You are supposed to feel like normal person who fight and get beaten but try to make it out. That is what make original one great and remake didn't.
@N_Ides
Comparing the original to the remake is like comparing the most delicious prime steak to days old big mac. Guess Spike was bored and had nothing better to do.
@DDarkestKnight
I thought 2013 was very off there's barely any of Spike Lee's style in it. But now I'm finding out that executives got in his way so now a lot make sense. Like the fact that this isn't a Spike Lee Joint and it's a short for a Spike Lee movie.
@alexdinu589
I once saw a review of oldboy 2013 that said: "If any of the scenes from oldboy 2013 were in the original, the writters would've harakiried themselves at park' order"
@NevTheDeranged
I remember not hating the Brolin version as much as I expected, but it was still not a patch on the original.
@andreslopez5962
Question: Why do Americans have to be always spoon fed every bit of information orally when it comes to visual media: TV, films, etc. ? I don't get it. Last month, I went to see OldBoy (2003 Korean film), and it was a masterpiece ranging from the music, the editing, the crazy characters with justifiable motives, etc. Glad, I learned about the American remake after watching the original film and NOT before it. One gets a lot of information by carefully observing the visual cues, the easter eggs, and the body language sprinkled throughout the film. Films are best experienced when they visually tell the information rather than having the character orally explain it endlessly.
@LoWsDominios
Spectacular essay. I don't want to be a jerk but it can be summarize as: "One director has a clear vision and the other doesn't fucking know what is doing." hahahah
@tonius3622
I remember YMS talking about the comparisons in length urging me to check out the original and I'm glad I did the older movie dwarfs the new one in almost every way possible.
@claudiomet
Original Korean Old Boy (2003) is a Masterpiece. 2013 USA version... meh
@kylemckerley5233
In a way I can totally understand how someone would like the spike version, that is if you've never seen the original. This is (almost) always the case with remakes and adaptations. The American version is great for the same audience that would watch anime with only dubs or say their favorite comic hero is a character from movies based on comics they would never read. But it got the main points of the film/manga delivered well for it's target audience.
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