Terrific video.
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ive been watching the show at my own pace while almost never checking what other people think about it on sites like reddit or twitter and so far, ive really been enjoying all the new characters, glorio, panzy and COUGH kuu are really fun to watch so far IMO
My problem with Daima is, with OG Dragon Ball being my favorite anime, Daima's Goku doesn't really seem like kid Goku to me. OG kid Goku was oblivious, curious, and appearence-wise he was stumpy too. I'm not saying Daima Goku has to be these things cause he is adult Goku in a kid's body, but the show doesn't make him feel like adult Goku either, what with the lame poop jokes he makes or the increased sense of wonder (which he usually reserves to fighting new enemies and not exploring new places). Basically he seems like a blank shonen protag now, because any shonen protagonist can express themselves like Goku does in Daima (always being hungry, taking enemies head on, discovering new lands). I'm not too sure how they could make him feel more like himself to me, maybe have him take things more seriously or give him more interactions to show off his character more. But I know the point of this show's to have a wide-eyed shonen protag explore and fight, so the show's fine for what it is.
Been listening to a lot of your videos as I sit trapped in my apartment sick as hell. Thanks for making these videos Plague! They help me relax when I otherwise can't
I don't entirely agree with the notion of there being no unique ideas to GT. I think Baby as an antagonist and what he did was fairly interesting for Dragonball Z. I thought bringing back the Oozaru form in some way was a good idea. And the concept of the Evil Dragons was probably the best idea for a villain that the series had (at least as far as Z/GT/Super is concerned). The problem was in execution. Outside of the concept stages, their creative choices and the writing sucked. TBH GT is far more comparable to Super. Outside of the first arc, the series very quickly reverted back to Dragonball Z's type of storytelling. And thus it's a lot more similar to Super. And compared to Super... the ideas actually presented by GT are FAR more interesting. Again, execution was lacking but... in terms of creativity I think it's certainly in favor of GT over Super.
If Daima is better than GT then they better to make me cry in the last episode, because i was literally crying in the last episode of GT after realizing that goku is no longer with us because the deal that he made with shenron. Even the soundtrack "Dan dan kokoro hiratekeru" is a masterpiece, i always felt the sadness everytime i heard that song
In the end it's the same crap. Og and Z are original, it all goes hill from there. Doesn't help that they don't have the balls to continue where Z left off. Both Super and Daima are before the ending of Z, that's two whole shows, atleast GT dared to continue and gave the franchise a real ending. Ngl tho, I like em all!
I always figured the best way to deal with the rot of powerscaling dragonball was forced into was to force Goku and all into an environment where their usual shtick just doesn't work. By forcing them to recontextualize fights and simultaneously reducing the power cieling dramatically you can have way more creative storytelling again and it seems that Toriyama had a similar thought with Daima.
My only negative is that this adventure could of been a goten and trunks adventure. Without all the goku baggage. Goten is clueless and innocent just like og goku, and trunks is hardheaded just like vegeta.
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Ah, never thought I'd see this channel covering dragon ball, hope this occurs more times.
GT is better I like a serious more mature Goku
I think you’ve really shined a light on this. A lot of the applies to the webcomic Dragon Ball Multiverse comic, from before Super’s Tournament of Power or Dragon Ball Heroes. “What if Vegeta and Goku never unfused” and similar what-if ideas interacting on a single stage. With flashbacks and emotional drama, akin to Buu saga’s Goku and Vegeta, or Future Trunks’ story.
I have been rewatching Dragon Ball lately and I had an absolute blast. The humor and characters are so entertaining and each episode feels organic in how it's written to this day. Then when I was nearing the end of the Piccolo Jr. saga I really started to feel the fatigue of the new "formula" the series was heading towards back then and it only worsened with Saiyan Saga and beyond. It honestly felt boring to me a lot of times, even if there was currently some action happening in the episode. Everything in the story has become so serious. No more it was about the adventure or becoming a better martial artist - it was primarly about defeating the current big bad guy and then waiting for the next one to show up. I still very much enjoy some of the iconic moments, animation (Studio Junio FTW!) and music, but as I get older I really appreciate the original series more even if I watched Z first.
As someone who watched from OG to GT religiously and sank himself in the zeitgeist of the time, it's been wild watching the slow distortion of the history, events within, and context surrounding GT. To the point even plague has forgotten the entire first half of GT regularly reminds the viewer Goku's depowered body was why he wasn't just deleting every enemy they came across.
I've grown really sick of Goku acting like a child or being turned into one. That also applies to him being voiced by someone to sound "pure-hearted" and "child-like" to everyone related to him sounding similar or implied to replace him early on in the story, only to not actually happen. It's honestly ridiculous how much this series keeps nostalgia-baiting with Goku.
Oh. Princess trunks existed in gt
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